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Slide Lag

Postby WALLY » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:28 am

Ihope I am explaining myself right. I am a Producer rookie. When in motion with two slides, one slide moving to the next, picking up that slide and moving to the next post one slide lags behind. Slide one motions to slide 2, picks up slide two underneath to move across to another position with slide two being undernesth. slide two lags slightly behind. You can see slide two tail end underneath showing during the movement. they do not move together one hiding the other.
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Re: Slide Lag

Postby gpsmikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:23 am

WALLY wrote:Ihope I am explaining myself right. I am a
Producer rookie. When in motion with two slides, one slide
moving to the next, picking up that slide and moving to the
next post one slide lags behind.


Hmmm - even with my coffee, your description is not "clicking" for
me. Have you got a short example show you could put on the
sharing site we could see ?? I don't understand what you are saying
here - it is lagging behind what ?? Maybe it is obvious to some of
the others (that would not be a first! ).

Sigh, maybe I'll have *another* cup of coffee :D

mikey
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Re: Slide Lag

Postby WALLY » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:26 am

gpsmikey wrote:
WALLY wrote:Ihope I am explaining myself right. I am a
Producer rookie. When in motion with two slides, one slide
moving to the next, picking up that slide and moving to the
next post one slide lags behind.


Hmmm - even with my coffee, your description is not "clicking" for
me. Have you got a short example show you could put on the
sharing site we could see ?? I don't understand what you are saying
here - it is lagging behind what ?? Maybe it is obvious to some of
the others (that would not be a first! ).

Sigh, maybe I'll have *another* cup of coffee :D

mikey
I added some more information Ihope this helps. One slide moving from bottom to top on top of another slide and then moving accross both slides the one underneath shows a slight lag and you can see the tail end.

WALLY

Re: Slide Lag

Postby WALLY » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:26 am

gpsmikey wrote:
WALLY wrote:Ihope I am explaining myself right. I am a
Producer rookie. When in motion with two slides, one slide
moving to the next, picking up that slide and moving to the
next post one slide lags behind.


Hmmm - even with my coffee, your description is not "clicking" for
me. Have you got a short example show you could put on the
sharing site we could see ?? I don't understand what you are saying
here - it is lagging behind what ?? Maybe it is obvious to some of
the others (that would not be a first! ).

Sigh, maybe I'll have *another* cup of coffee :D

mikey
I added some more information Ihope this helps. One slide moving from bottom to top on top of another slide and then moving accross both slides the one underneath shows a slight lag and you can see the tail end.

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Postby gpsmikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:32 am

Still not quite sure I understand, but if you are saying what I think
you are, if you are using keyframes to do the motion and have
"smoothing" something other than 0, that may be what is getting
you since it tries to make things happen "smooth". Does that
help ?? Am I still lost ?? How are you defining the motion of
the slides (both top and bottom) ? Keyframes ?

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andy

Welcome WALLY!

Postby andy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:29 am

Oh come on mikey, don’t let this be the one to beat you……you will be blaming the brand of coffee next!
Now I am going to ask more or less the same as you …..but in a different way. :twisted:

Hi WALLY, Firstly Welcome to our forum :D .
Now we are finding it very hard to understand exactly what you are trying to describe to us and we REALLY want to be able to help you, so please do not be offended by me attempting to simplify what I think you might be saying by asking some questions. Then you can reply back to let us know if I totally misunderstood, or just how close I might be to understanding your problem. Then one of us (probably mikey) will help you to solve your problem.

Are you saying that:
1/. You have two photos (or pictures) that you are moving around (created movement) within one slide?
2/. Does part of the movement of one photo involve completely covering the other photo, so as the one underneath is completely hidden from view by the one on top
3/. Then are you moving BOTH photos (one hidden by the other) from one corner of the slide to another position within the same slide?
4/. Is it during this movement that you see the “tail endâ€

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Postby gpsmikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:38 am

I ain't beat, I just have not managed to figure out exactly
what the question is yet -- that was why I asked if he could
post a short example (I relate to pictures better sometimes). :D

mikey
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WALLY

Re: Welcome WALLY!

Postby WALLY » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:41 pm

[quote="andy"]Oh come on mikey, don’t let this be the one to beat you……you will be blaming the brand of coffee next!
Now I am going to ask more or less the same as you …..but in a different way. :twisted:

Hi WALLY, Firstly Welcome to our forum :D .
Now we are finding it very hard to understand exactly what you are trying to describe to us and we REALLY want to be able to help you, so please do not be offended by me attempting to simplify what I think you might be saying by asking some questions. Then you can reply back to let us know if I totally misunderstood, or just how close I might be to understanding your problem. Then one of us (probably mikey) will help you to solve your problem.

Are you saying that:
1/. You have two photos (or pictures) that you are moving around (created movement) within one slide?
2/. Does part of the movement of one photo involve completely covering the other photo, so as the one underneath is completely hidden from view by the one on top
3/. Then are you moving BOTH photos (one hidden by the other) from one corner of the slide to another position within the same slide?
4/. Is it during this movement that you see the “tail endâ€

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Postby gpsmikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:53 pm

How are you "attaching" the one on top to the one that it is
going over? If you set up a free account at the Photodex sharing
site, you could put together a short sample and upload it to
the site where we could see it. Maybe that would make more
sense to us.
http://www.photodex.com/sharing/ - it is simple - once you
set up your free account, you simply click the "share" button
in Producer - it will ask for your account name and password
and upload the show. You then go to the site, login and select your
show, copy the address from the browser address field and
stuff that in a post here so we can view the example - the address
will look something like this when you do that:
http://www.photodex.com/sharing/viewsho ... 6343&alb=0

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Postby gpsmikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:17 pm

See if this is what you are trying to do ...
http://www.photodex.com/sharing/viewsho ... 9016&alb=0

mikey
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andy

Postby andy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:51 pm

aaaaahhh mikey,
I think I now understand what WALLY is seeing and why it is happening. (As you so rightly say WALLY’s sample download should tell us everything)……But what I think is happening is, if he is using keyframing then it’s more add hock then by design and he has not synchronised the timings between the two photos layers, i.e. from the moment when the first moving photo overlaps the second photo and they then move as one (at the same speed to the next or last keyframe.) I’m of to bed soon …..so if it turns out the problem is movement keyframing sync timings, then I’m NOT your man!!!!….I'm still having problems of my own with keyframing......and how do you teach anyone keyframing just before bed time.... sorry !:roll: :roll:
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Postby gpsmikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:01 pm

Well, I got a pm from him saying that was mostly what he was
trying to do so I am on the right track -- at least I understand
the question (I think). Apparently, he wants to have the corners
line up. I think I might be more inclined to bring the first one into
where I wanted it then make up another picture in photoshop
or whatever of the two the way I wanted them, transition to that
and then move the new one since trying to get the two (or more)
sets of keyframes working the same (especially if the zoom level
is different etc) could be a real pain (I had to fiddle with my
example for a bit to make it work right). I have not done this
before, so if anyone else has played this game, feel free to jump
into the pond !!

Hmmm - come to think of it, another way might be to create whatever
motion you want with one slide, copy that layer to another layer and
modify it with a new picture and the front keyframe in the series to
match the second one so it didn't move for the first part. That might
also work.


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andy

Postby andy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:01 pm

WALLY I am unable to explain keyframing to you, but may I suggest that you visit the “Member Created Filesâ€

Pauline

Postby Pauline » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:09 pm

Hi Wally

It sounds like a keyframing problem, and although I can't give you an exact solution this is what I do. I'm not too daunted by keyframing anymore, but when something seems complicated I do the movement over 2 or 3 slides if possible rather than fiddle too much within 1. Often trial and error pays off, although at times I start ripping my hair out and that's when I call "Help!" to these great people.

I agree with Mikey - sometimes it helps to copy a layer as a new layer (or to the next slide) and change the pic. If all else fails, maybe there's a template being shared that will be similar to what you need and can help you out. Good luck, and persevere :)

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Postby rufone419 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:50 pm

I doubt there is much you guys couldn't figure out

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