Help Required for Adjusting the Vol within the song

[spudger Profile Private message]

Can anybody help please..?

I am trying to lower the volume within a song - I have a small video clip in which the couple say "I Do" and I wanted to include this within the show but cannot work out how to lower the volume for just this clip. The volume can go back to normal 100% once the clip is finished.

When I have put in a video clip before - the vol has lowered automatically, but I am not sure why it hasnt this time.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Regards

Spudger

[nannybear Profile Private messageWebsite]

It has to do with the video slide settings to a degree. Give me a minute to check it out.

[nannybear Profile Private messageWebsite]

Ok, I am not at home so can't go see, but I remember it being in the sound option of the slide. You tell it what volume you want the show soundtrack to be at while the video sound is playing. Sound familiar. Will check when I get home for you. Cheers Jan

[gpsmikey Profile Private message]

If you want to lower the volume of the background for the duration
of the video clip "slide", then Jan's comment applies. If, however,
you are only trying to lower the volume during that one short time
out of the full length of the video slide, then I think your only answer
is going to be to edit the sound in an external editor such as Audacity
(which is free) or anything else that allows you to adjust various
points along the timeline of an audio track. That would allow you to
put in the "dip" in volume in the middle of the sound track and
adjust it as you want.

mikey

[spudger Profile Private message]

Good Morning - Thank you both (Nannybear and Mikey) for replying - got to go to the dreaded workplace now - but will have a look again this evening - I knew about the sound volume on the editing side of the video clip on PSP and when I have played the clip again this morning - the sound does reduce slightly but not enough to hear the words - so if you think that I need an external audio program (audacity - is this what I google ?) I will try and edit the clip from this. I cannot see anything within the PSP that accommodates the increase or decrease of volume within a song or tune, but if you have any suggestions Nannybear would love to hear them. I knew I could rely on you two for an answer... Thanks

This is virtually the first time I have tried with video clips and would like to do it just right as it is for my son's wedding and I have been working on it for a month now - nearly finished the ceremony part ..................................... they will probably get it at this rate for their 10th anniversary...

I will catch up with this tonight but for now "Have a Good Day"

Cheers & Thanks
Spudger

[spudger Profile Private message]

Found It .... Done it.... Yippeee........

Thanks Nannybear - couldn't go to work without trying one more time - I found it on the music edit tab - bottom right ( I highlighted the clip slide first) then tabbed the music bar - on the bottom right of the page is a panel option which says "Soundtrack during other sounds" I have adjusted the vol right down to 2 or 3 and had a fade in and fade out - it works a treat....

Just increase the volume of the clip now and I can forge ahead - Great - Thanks

Ohhh.... what a glorious day....

Spudger

[gpsmikey Profile Private message]

Glad you were able to get it working -- it had not been clear from
your post if you wanted the volume down for the whole video clip
(which was easy as Nannybear pointed out) or only during a portion
of the video clip (which required a different approach).

mikey

[spudger Profile Private message]

Hi Mikey,

arrrrh easy peasy - now that I know what to do of course Sorry I didn't make it clear - it is funny how you write something down and of course in your own head it makes perfect sense, maybe that is because I am having senior moments more often than I use to .....

I had originally - cut and edited the video clip so that all I had left was the vows being said - I had one piece of clip with son saying "I Do" then I used a dissolve for the transition into another clip of video with my new 'daughter-in-law' saying "I Do" - I didn't want all the other bits cos it made it too long. so for this instance it just needed to be for the whole new video clip (2 video clips spliced together).

However, if you are saying that there is a way to just do a portion of the clip perhaps you could enlighten me further..

I am on a tea-break at the moment - so wont be able to pick much up until the end of the day but perhaps you could explain further regarding your suggestion.


Thank you for your help - sorry for the confusion

Spudger

[gpsmikey Profile Private message]

Senior moments ??? Hey, I live from senior moment to senior ..... errr
what were we talking about again ???

As far as the video clip goes and being able to manipulate the volume
at different points during the clip, there are several approaches that
allow you to do that. The first is to make a copy of the audio from the
clip then adjust the audio the way you want in an audio editor - that is
the cheapest, but would require some "fiddling" to do. Probably the way
to do that would be to use your audio editor to "mix" the soundtrack
you grabbed from the video with the main soundtrack giving you a
new soundtrack exactly as you wanted it (you would adjust the two
audio levels in your "mix" - actually sounds more complicated than
it really is. You then put the sound track (with the video audio mixed
and the clip audio "muted") back and sync it to the speaking. The easiest way
is if you have a video editor (which you might want to consider if you
are playing with video), almost all of the ones I have played with
allow you to adjust the audio levels anywhere in the clip. Sony
Vegas Movie Studio is a reasonable one for about $60 if I remember
correctly. There are several others too (possibly even some free that
would allow you to do it). Do a search in the forum for video editors -
they have come up several times.

I find I use both PSP and a video editor (Sony Vegas Movie Studio in
this case). There are some things like some of the motion, title effects
etc that Proshow does quite well. There are other things that Sony
handles well - I create my segments in Proshow, output them as
uncompressed AVI files (video) then import them into the video editor
and do it's thing with alpha channels and other nice stuff (and their
"create DVD" works better than PSP). The only down side is it is
not easy to get back to a presenter compatable file you can show
on the Proshow site.

Well, I certainly wandered on there - and with no coffee yet either

mikey

[spudger Profile Private message]

Wow - Mikey - for a guy who lives from senior moment to senior moment - you sure do a great job - if these senior moments make one that clever then BRING IT ON.....!

Right ... I think I understand what you are saying - I was looking at a video editing suite last weekend again (have been for months - just can't decide which one) If I get the Sony Vegas Movie one would this work together with the ULead 3D program ( the one that is mentioned with Ken Lowther intro) ? All I am using at the moment is the Windows (sort of free program which comes with the computer) it does the trick but is obviously very basic and limited but it has got me started and does cut and edit. The video I took was on my camera so the resolution is not a great as a camcorder, also I was in the front row (being Mum) so of course I had to be a bit circumspect..... But I have learnt on this one and the bits I got really dont work that well - I learnt you cannot be Mum and chief Video taker at the same time ........... still never mind I got the I Do's ... which is what is important for this project.

Thanks for all your help - I have printed it off and it is now in my box of tricks. When the show is finished I will put it on the sample shows.

Hope you have a good day -

Spudger

[gpsmikey Profile Private message]

Yes, in general, you can use many of these programs together as long
as you find a common format (and have disk space ). I have been
putting together some sort DVD's for some of the swim team and I have
it in 3 segments - the intro, the middle section that is specific to the
particular family I am doing it for and the end segment. A 3 minute
"middle segment" of uncompressed AVI (which is what I import into
the video editor) is somewhere between 5 and 7 gigs !!! Once you
have used the video editor to join things up with the features you want,
you can remove those intermediate segments (the final show as a DVD
is only about 300-400 megabytes with mpeg2 video and AC3 audio
but at the intermediate stage, there is 10 or 12 gigs of disk space used !
(the more you can avoid compressing things until the final step, the
better the result). Besides, this justifies a new "toy"

mikey

[spudger Profile Private message]

Sorry - it has taken some time to reply - but have been working hard.....

Yes, that is one way to justify new "tools" not toys ..... after all you need the "right tool for the right job" eh....

thank you for all your help and advice - got a day off tomorrow so gonna look at a few programs (tools...) to see which one to purchase.

Thanks once again.

Spudger

[bigsewed Profile Private message]

Spudger
I have found at times it is easier with an avi that has sound of its on, to just include a "song" of just silence for the time you need...
This can be used to delay a song as well...
Wes

[gpsmikey Profile Private message]

To paraphrase someone (I don't have a clue who said it originally),
"any job worth doing requires at least 1 new 'tool'"

mikey

[spudger Profile Private message]

Hi Big Sewed
Thanks for the reply - but could you enlarge on including a 'song' of silence.... do you mean to record a minute or so of silence (if you know what I mean)... or am I being a bit dense again...

Mikey,
Day off today and credit card at the ready and busting out of my pockets.....! Hope I can find something good.

cheers everyone . thanks for your help.

Spudger