Fit to safe zone on black

[gpsmikey Profile Private message]

What I'm hearing is that my 2 year old LCD shouldn't have
overscan but it does. Hmmm. I guess it makes it harder to put out a general
show intended for DVD then since it can be anywhere from 10% to 0 overscan.
Wonderful. Sounds like the rest of my computer life.
Nothing ever works everywhere...

And here I thought you didn't understand !

Especially with the older CRT's, they had significant overscan to cover the
scan non-linearity at the ends of the scan lines. Remember the old TV's
that had size adjustments and vertical/horizontal hold controls ?? (wow, that
dates me - I still remember black and white). Try turning the vertical and
horizontal size down so you see the whole picture -- look at the "page peel"
effect along the edges of the picture (very typical). That is what makes it so
hard. LCD gets even more interesting - by itself, it has no "overscan", however,
during the A/D conversion of a TV signal, they may introduce some "overscan"
by just trimming the ends a bit. Then you take the same display and
feed it a digital signal from the computer and if it is 1200 pixels wide, you
can use 1200 pixels - none of this overscan nonsense. There is no clearly
defined amount of overscan - as you have discovered, it can vary.
(look at the hassles with the different media types for DVD's )

mikey

[BarbaraC Profile Private messageWebsite]

Rick, just in case you decide ask me, I think it's best to design for overscan. People are used to seeing black edges, and those black bars are a whole lot better than decapitated people.

Barbara

[rkligman Profile Private messageWebsite]

Rick, just in case you decide ask me, I think it's best to design for overscan. People are used to seeing black edges, and those black bars are a whole lot better than decapitated people.

Barbara

Sounds like you're advocating putting the show INSIDE the Safe zone, maybe just a touch over vs. going edge to edge and just keeping the titles in the safe zone?

[BarbaraC Profile Private messageWebsite]

No, I'm suggesting you give it a little leeway just in case. As for me, I'll have to stick to the safe zone for now.

Barbara

[im42n8 Profile Private messageWebsite]

Rumour has it that hindsight is 20-20!

Dale

[kaylef Profile Private message]

Barbara ...your mistake is my blessing. Now I wont do that! Thankyou for fessin up and helping me save tons of time. I dont think its stupid though, i think its an AHA moment.

Kay

[BarbaraC Profile Private messageWebsite]

Kay, I'd prefer my "aha" moments weren't followed by hours of revision.

Dale, it's only 20-20 when you can find your glasses. Mine have a wanderlust. I need a little beeper for them so I can press a button and they honk from wherever they are. It would probably scare the dickens out of anyone who happens to be sitting near them. Like the day I was next to a car that someone was trying to find, and the car beeped and I nearly lost my teeth.

Barbara

[dlvery]

Hi All,
Glad to see this post because I was wondering about my own shows. I am not convinced that my proshow software is set up properly because no matter what tv I viewed my shows on, the top gets cut off even if its in the safe zone. I asked about this at the Chicago conference but they couldnt make a determination as to why that might happen. Now I just move all my captions to the bottom or sides and dont use the top for anything too important. I do hate though that I have to be so cautious. I do my shows in 4:3 to this point and have tried different shows on different tvs with the same result.

[BarbaraC Profile Private messageWebsite]

the top gets cut off even if its in the safe zone

That's incredibly odd. Are you using "Fit to Safe Zone" and not "Fill to"?

Barbara

[Scooter Profile Private message]

Barb, if you turn on composition lines while editing you should be able to see the safe zone even if the slide background is black. The composition lines will fade when they cross the save zone. You can define the grid as well for color and number of lines. I use this a lot and it has saved me time.

Scooter.

[BarbaraC Profile Private messageWebsite]

Scooter, I never realized that. I use the composition lines and obviously haven't paid any attention to the perimeter of the screen. I'll have to do so.

Barbara