Cut into 2? RESOLVED

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Cut into 2? RESOLVED

Postby chezeury » Mon May 14, 2012 8:20 am

Hey guys,

I know this may sound silly but I've gotten myself into a rut with a slide that is much too long with too many elements and when previewing, it makes the show and the music hiccup to load that particular slide.
I'm actually afraid it might not render properly.

I'm doing it for someone that is putting up a compilation of music (3 albums with a dozen songs each) and once each album appears, then snippets of music change after a few seconds and titles fade in and out. The font they want to use is a very complicated one, and proshow doesn't seem to be able to handle it, it just goes beserk, so I redid all those graphically, but then also, the background is a speaker that you see the beat of the music, so there are modifiers to follow the music. In the first album, nothing much besides the thumping of the speakers, in the second album, the speaker starts to get crackling and crazing and then in the third, while the music beats, pieces of the speaker, crack off and fall off revealing a rusty background. This last slide is giving me the problem. YES! Crazy me! What was I thinking, but it is looking great except for the preview hiccup and how slow changes are to make in this slide. :| :oops:

Is there an easy way to simply cut it into 2? with 0.00 transition, so that it looks exactly the same but that proshow doesn't have a problem to load. I know they say that the amount of layers is without limit, but I have a pretty strong computer yet it is having a problem. Is there a place in Producer's settings to set up a scratch disk?

Any help would be appreciated,
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Re: Cut into 2?

Postby im42n8 » Mon May 14, 2012 11:33 am

There are a few ways of doing this ... but, I'll deal with how I would do it (first). Note: it's not always possible to "split" a slide depending upon how complicated the construction (links/dependencies) between the various layers are.

Make 2 copies of the "offending" slide (A). This gives you a reference slide and 2 working slides (B and C).

Decide where you can split the slide such that it's going to cause you less heartburn. On B, you will probably want to remove the keyframes after that selected location ... the last keyframe will be at that selected position. On C, the keyframes prior to the position will be removed (that is, the FIRST keyframe will be at the "less heartburn" time).

It's probably after that is done that you can decide what layers can be removed (if any) from either slide (B or C). The transition between the two slides will be 0s.

It may be simple or it may be complicated ... it all depends on how the slide is constructed. In the past, I've had good luck doing this as well as some nightmares. In the case of the nightmare, the slide construction just didn't lend itself well to being "deconstructed." I ended up having to recreate the effect from scratch using two or more slides.

Once you start, it should be long before you discover if you're getting into more work that it's worth. In that case, you then want to recreate the effect on two slides by starting from scratch.

Good Luck (Hope you have some hair left by the time you're done!) :D :D :D

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Re: Cut into 2?

Postby chezeury » Mon May 14, 2012 11:57 am

Hey Dale,

I've created a test project with this slide to try and do it. I had made only one copy and have been calculating on a sheet by dividing the sheet in two and placing what goes where on slide A and then what will appear on slide B and which should be on both and doing a transposition of keyframe times trying to mathematically move stuff over in a logical way. I'm going to give it an hour or so and see if I can actually move things the way they are, as the effect is quite difficult to achieve as the parts that fall off have to look random, but certain items cannot fall when other pieces are holding them down. as they would be layered on top of the actual speaker such as a ring with screws which holds the actual thumping speaker part and also they are in a certain sequence since pieces falling off cannot fall under other pieces as that just looks odd. I hope to avoid doing it from scratch again; It 's a little like doing a painting a second time, it loses something in translation.

I will now try your method with 2 copies and see if I can get the result easier.

As for pulling my hair out, I'm actually surprised I have any left; I seem to always come up with these elaborate
ideas that frustrate me, but give me a weird kind of joy when I figure it out! :-D
Thanks, Dale
I'll let you know how it goes. :-)
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Re: Cut into 2?

Postby chezeury » Mon May 14, 2012 12:23 pm

I've made a list of all pieces that fall during the first half of the slide, and am doing to create the graphic without them, showing the rust to replace those layers in the second slide and delete those layers as they don't need to be in the second one and I'm going to also create a graphic with the pieces that don't fall until the second slide and create that graphic to put in the first half which should also allow me to delete many layers and be much less taxing on the program.

Cross your fingers as a bit of good luck can't be a bad thing!
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Re: Cut into 2?

Postby chezeury » Mon May 14, 2012 7:38 pm

Actually, this evening I had a special supper and while I wasn't here, I decided to do a test render to see if the actual show may be alright after rendering and it is perfect so I will not be bothering with continuing to try and cut it up, as I'm satisfied with the result and thank you very much Dale for your help. I guess I freaked out too quickly before using some logic and seeing if it would work before jumping to conclusions.

Anways, I'm relieved and thanks for trying to help.
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Re: Cut into 2? RESOLVED

Postby Oldguy » Tue May 15, 2012 4:18 am

Don't know if this is your problem but, I had
a somewhat similar problem & Jennifer told
me to turn off GPU acceleration. That fixed
my problem. The pic look fuzzy during preview,
but render great. You might try it.

Forrest

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Re: Cut into 2? RESOLVED

Postby chezeury » Tue May 15, 2012 7:34 am

Oldguy wrote:Don't know if this is your problem but, I had
a somewhat similar problem & Jennifer told
me to turn off GPU acceleration. That fixed
my problem. The pic look fuzzy during preview,
but render great. You might try it.

Forrest

Hi Forrest,
I would have thought that if the resolution had changed ,(ergo the fuzziness you got) but this was because the program had to stop and load the slide which had so much going on, that it literally stopped for a second and the music stopped. I'm pleased to say that the test render had no such problems, so I'm going to be able to finish this today, most probably!
Thanks for trying to help
:-)
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