Ghost keyframes
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by gpsmikey » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:32 am
There you go with your assumptions -- you are assuming there
was *anything* in their heads when they wrote sections of the
manual. In most places it reads like they hired some tech
writers that had no knowledge of the program and were simply
hired to "fill in the blanks". Sorry Photodex, I have been working
as an engineer in the tech field for 30+ years -- your
"documentation" sucks. I actually very seldom refer to their manual -
not because I "know it all" but because it typically provides very
little additional information. Unlike people here like Nannybear,
vidqueen and others who actually are able to explain what
something does and how to use an option (yes, this is a sore point
with me
) Part of the reason I originally purchased it
was their 2.6 manual actually had good information in it - I
expected 3.0 to be somewhat similar ... foolish me. (one of
my criteria for purchasing software is decent documentation - I
usually make it a point to read the forums for support and
download a copy of the manual for myself - they got me with
version 3 though)
mikey
was *anything* in their heads when they wrote sections of the
manual. In most places it reads like they hired some tech
writers that had no knowledge of the program and were simply
hired to "fill in the blanks". Sorry Photodex, I have been working
as an engineer in the tech field for 30+ years -- your
"documentation" sucks. I actually very seldom refer to their manual -
not because I "know it all" but because it typically provides very
little additional information. Unlike people here like Nannybear,
vidqueen and others who actually are able to explain what
something does and how to use an option (yes, this is a sore point
with me
) Part of the reason I originally purchased it
was their 2.6 manual actually had good information in it - I
expected 3.0 to be somewhat similar ... foolish me. (one of
my criteria for purchasing software is decent documentation - I
usually make it a point to read the forums for support and
download a copy of the manual for myself - they got me with
version 3 though)
mikey
You can't have too many gadgets or too much disk space !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
by BarbaraC » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:16 am
At least I went into it with eyes wide open. I knew the documentation sucked, was warned about it by all the reviewers, but because the program is top-rated in every other way, I decided to forge ahead. I'm not sorry I did, but I'm certainly shocked that the manual is even worse than advertised. Three cheers for the existence of this forum. Maybe four cheers.
Barbara
Barbara
Direct from the horse's mouth
by BarbaraC » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:49 pm
Just in from Photodex:
Understanding ghost key frames can be a very confusing ordeal. Please
refer to the following information regarding ghost key frames and steps
on how to avoid them from popping up.
Ghost key frames are only used as markers that help you during the
creation of multi-layered effects. Ghost key frames will only appear
when you select a different layer inside of the preview windows under
the motion section of the slide options. If you would like to avoid the
whole idea behind ghost key frames on your machine, you can simply use
the drop down box above to switch between layers, instead of clicking
them inside the preview windows.
So you were one sharp observer, Pspfan.
I assume everyone is noticing that no answer was given as to WHY and HOW the ghosts will help us.
Barbara
Understanding ghost key frames can be a very confusing ordeal. Please
refer to the following information regarding ghost key frames and steps
on how to avoid them from popping up.
Ghost key frames are only used as markers that help you during the
creation of multi-layered effects. Ghost key frames will only appear
when you select a different layer inside of the preview windows under
the motion section of the slide options. If you would like to avoid the
whole idea behind ghost key frames on your machine, you can simply use
the drop down box above to switch between layers, instead of clicking
them inside the preview windows.
So you were one sharp observer, Pspfan.
I assume everyone is noticing that no answer was given as to WHY and HOW the ghosts will help us.
Barbara
by gpsmikey » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:55 pm
Well, it is either "intuitively obvious" or "you should have
covered that last quarter" from my college days
Or is that more like "I'm from the IRS and I'm here to help you" ??
mikey
covered that last quarter" from my college days
Or is that more like "I'm from the IRS and I'm here to help you" ??
mikey
You can't have too many gadgets or too much disk space !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
by BarbaraC » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:08 pm
They're 100% consistent. What is the matter with these people? It's like asking a teenager where he's been. "Around." Then asking what he did in this place called Around. "Not much."
Barbara
Barbara
by gpsmikey » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:31 pm
BarbaraC wrote:They're 100% consistent. What is the matter with these people? It's like asking a teenager where he's been. "Around." Then asking what he did in this place called Around. "Not much."
Barbara
Ah, I see you've been talking to my son again !
mikey
You can't have too many gadgets or too much disk space !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
UPDATE!
by BarbaraC » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:04 pm
Apparently, the supervisor at Photodex was looking over the support replies, and he happened across the one that was sent to me about ghost frames. He didn't like what he saw and he picked up the phone and called me. We each set up a slide with layers on our computers, and then he walked me through the appearance of ghost frames, how to use them, and how to get rid of them safely.
For simplicity's sake, say you have just two layers. On layer one, you set a marker at a precise location to match part of the music. If you then click on the second layer in the preview window, a ghost marker will appear. It'll be showing you where you placed the marker in the keyframe for layer one, and if you want a marker for layer two in that exact same location, you can... Shoot! I can't remember if it's a right or left click. I'll have to check, but I do know that right-clicking gives you the option of deleting the ghost marker. If you are really into working with music (which I am), you could watch the ghost markers for, say, the downbeats and, using them as a guide, set markers for between the beats.
I'll play with it some more and maybe end up being able to explain it better.
By the way, this supervisor and I spent most of the time talking about the manual, and he told me that he and others have been pushing for an in-depth rewrite.
Barbara
For simplicity's sake, say you have just two layers. On layer one, you set a marker at a precise location to match part of the music. If you then click on the second layer in the preview window, a ghost marker will appear. It'll be showing you where you placed the marker in the keyframe for layer one, and if you want a marker for layer two in that exact same location, you can... Shoot! I can't remember if it's a right or left click. I'll have to check, but I do know that right-clicking gives you the option of deleting the ghost marker. If you are really into working with music (which I am), you could watch the ghost markers for, say, the downbeats and, using them as a guide, set markers for between the beats.
I'll play with it some more and maybe end up being able to explain it better.
By the way, this supervisor and I spent most of the time talking about the manual, and he told me that he and others have been pushing for an in-depth rewrite.
Barbara
It's All Learning
by SandyB » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:08 pm
Barbara,
I usually learn things pretty well with a good reference manual . . .
Figured out my slide question. There are three layers behind a frame and each layer fades out to the next. I was referring to the default show background which did look like a black hole until I got the KF timing refined. Progress . . .
Five cheers for people on this forum!
Sandy
PS - I just wish Mikey would tell us how he really feels about the documentation.
"What we see is all a matter of focus." from the website of BarbaraC
I usually learn things pretty well with a good reference manual . . .
Figured out my slide question. There are three layers behind a frame and each layer fades out to the next. I was referring to the default show background which did look like a black hole until I got the KF timing refined. Progress . . .
Five cheers for people on this forum!
Sandy
PS - I just wish Mikey would tell us how he really feels about the documentation.
"What we see is all a matter of focus." from the website of BarbaraC
Connecting Who You Are With What You Love To Do
by gpsmikey » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:25 pm
Wow !! I really feel enlightened !! Just switched my old CRT monitor for a new 22" LCD
running 1600 * 1200 ... now I can really see the documentation
Just bought a Samsung 226BW LCD display and it is one of those "wide" ones -- sure
makes a difference when working on slideshows and other things like that -- the timeline
is much wider and easier to visualize what you are doing. CRT's are still better (?) for
detail photo work (subtle shades etc), but this is sure nice for working on slide shows
and video editing -- effectively adds about 4 or 5 inches onto the side of the screen
(you know - where you wish you could see). (I must admit the quick start guide
that comes with the display makes Photodex documentation look good ... "please to be so careful"
mikey
running 1600 * 1200 ... now I can really see the documentation
Just bought a Samsung 226BW LCD display and it is one of those "wide" ones -- sure
makes a difference when working on slideshows and other things like that -- the timeline
is much wider and easier to visualize what you are doing. CRT's are still better (?) for
detail photo work (subtle shades etc), but this is sure nice for working on slide shows
and video editing -- effectively adds about 4 or 5 inches onto the side of the screen
(you know - where you wish you could see). (I must admit the quick start guide
that comes with the display makes Photodex documentation look good ... "please to be so careful"
mikey
You can't have too many gadgets or too much disk space !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
mikey (PSP6, Photoshop CS6, Vegas Pro 14, Acid 7, BluffTitler, Nikon D300s, D810)
Lots of PIC and Arduino microprocessor stuff too !!
Re: It's All Learning
by BarbaraC » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:27 pm
s_brown326 wrote:"What we see is all a matter of focus." from the website of BarbaraC
Close. It's actually "What we see is what we expect to see."
by BarbaraC » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:14 pm
Now, Mikey, you'll be able to see even more ghosts. They've been lurking just on the edge all the time.
I'm also using 1600 x 1200, but mine's a CRT for the reasons you mentioned. It's a monster on my desk, but I can now see every little flaw in my photos. It could be a really good photo, but I see the flaw. It's like looking in the mirror and seeing nothing but the zit.
Barbara
I'm also using 1600 x 1200, but mine's a CRT for the reasons you mentioned. It's a monster on my desk, but I can now see every little flaw in my photos. It could be a really good photo, but I see the flaw. It's like looking in the mirror and seeing nothing but the zit.
Barbara
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